Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide- How much to use? UPDATED!

Chicory, what % is your HP? Mine is 35%. The % will vary your amount in the water. From what I have read you can raise the percent in your animal water a little higher in order to treat problems rather than the preventative I plan to use it for.

Dan, there is a place in Edmonton that sells it bulk. I will try to find out more info. I got mine at Nutters. $25 I think for a litre.

Dark Wing, there is something very naughty about you. Your remind me of a little brother. I promise to stay clear of Confucianism if you do!

Sue

And what good is it?

Well, as a disinfectant it will keep my water cleaner.

I have heard claims that the extra oxygen in it will have an effect on anaerobic bacteria.

We shall see...

Sue

Schipperkesue wrote:

Dan, there is a place in Edmonton that sells it bulk. I will try to find out more info. I got mine at Nutters. $25 I think for a litre.
Sue

Boy, at $100 for a gallon (almost 4 litres) I hope you can get it bulk. Wonder why it is so expensive, that makes no sense to me. Anyways, thinking I am going to have to check out around our town tomorrow and find out who has it and what the cost is....I certainly would NEVER ever pay $25 for a litre of anything, that just sucks!! Just like the health food stores selling colloidal silver solutions for so much. Hmmmm...wonder how we could make food grade hydrogen peroxide.

So....what is the ratio, laymen's terms.....if it is say 35%, did you ever get an exact answer, I didn't get it if you did.

I have read some very interesting stuff about food grade hydrogen peroxide (H202) and it does have some pretty cool things that it is good for....have a wonderful and awesome day, CynthiaM.

CynthiaM wrote:

Schipperkesue wrote:

Dan, there is a place in Edmonton that sells it bulk. I will try to find out more info. I got mine at Nutters. $25 I think for a litre.
Sue

Boy, at $100 for a gallon (almost 4 litres) I hope you can get it bulk. Wonder why it is so expensive, that makes no sense to me. Anyways, thinking I am going to have to check out around our town tomorrow and find out who has it and what the cost is....I certainly would NEVER ever pay $25 for a litre of anything, that just sucks!! Just like the health food stores selling colloidal silver solutions for so much. Hmmmm...wonder how we could make food grade hydrogen peroxide.

So....what is the ratio, laymen's terms.....if it is say 35%, did you ever get an exact answer, I didn't get it if you did.

I have read some very interesting stuff about food grade hydrogen peroxide (H202) and it does have some pretty cool things that it is good for....have a wonderful and awesome day, CynthiaM.

Hi Cynthia,

I haven't been able to get a firm answer on the amount to use so I will keep this post alive until I do.

Yes, it is expensive in small amounts. I looked at the tag last night and it was actually $21 for a litre. Big whoop. If I plan to use it, I will find a better bulk price, but I don't want a whole bunch if I'm not going to use it. So $21 is a decent investment for a trial use.

Sue

Sue, I don't think that anyone really knows the answer of "how much", that is why you are up in the air. Your equation is the same as Chicory Farm, the math corroborates it.

Chicory Farm's information from the fellow that advised her to use it in her water for the farm:
1/2 tsp (2.5 ml) - gallon

You want to use 10 ml to 4 gallons
10 ml (2 tsp) - 4 gallons

There is 5 ml in a teaspoon.

With Chicory's 2.5 ml to one gallon ratio and yours of 10 ml per 4 gallons, it is the same ratio of food grade hydrogen peroxide that each of you want to use.

Go for 10 ml in four gallons.....just do it, I think it pretty much good stuff with the dilution rates -- have a wonderful day. CynthiaM.

Score!

I have started with half that amount and am on my second day. after a week I will double it.

That 35% is powerful stuff! got a drip on my fingers. It turned my skin white and caused my cuticle to burn and sting.

I will treat it with respect.

Sue

Good, she shoots, she scores!! So, wow, that stuff is potent, no wonder you must dilute so heavily. Sorry to hear that you got some on you and that it burned, not good. I'll remember that when handling it for sure. I really need to do more reading about H202, seriously. The little I have read is amazing what people claim it to work with cures on, so many things. I need to see more studies done, but I am sure they are there, just got look and see, have a wonderful day, CynthiaM.

Schipperkesue wrote:Score!

I have started with half that amount and am on my second day. after a week I will double it.

That 35% is powerful stuff! got a drip on my fingers. It turned my skin white and caused my cuticle to burn and sting.

I will treat it with respect.

Sue

And this is supposed to be good for animals?!?!

Dark Wing Duck wrote:

Schipperkesue wrote:Score!

I have started with half that amount and am on my second day. after a week I will double it.

That 35% is powerful stuff! got a drip on my fingers. It turned my skin white and caused my cuticle to burn and sting.

I will treat it with respect.

Sue

And this is supposed to be good for animals?!?!

Information, learn, H202 is a very widely used liquid, in many ways, not just internally. I do not know much of anything, but sure have read some good stuff about how this works, oxygen is the keyword here and believe it has some very good uses. There is a huge difference between the normal non-food grade H202 and food-grade H202. Have a wonderful day, CynthiaM.

Sue part of the problem with giving an amount to use is that it all depends on the water you are using it on. The more stuff it has in the water the more peroxide you will need, that's why you can use those test strips to test how much peroxide is left in the water. We always wear gloves to handle it when we are switching barrels. As you found out you don't want to contact that stuff undiluted.

CynthiaM wrote:

Dark Wing Duck wrote:

Schipperkesue wrote:Score!

I have started with half that amount and am on my second day. after a week I will double it.

That 35% is powerful stuff! got a drip on my fingers. It turned my skin white and caused my cuticle to burn and sting.

I will treat it with respect.

Sue

And this is supposed to be good for animals?!?!

Information, learn, H202 is a very widely used liquid, in many ways, not just internally. I do not know much of anything, but sure have read some good stuff about how this works, oxygen is the keyword here and believe it has some very good uses. There is a huge difference between the normal non-food grade H202 and food-grade H202. Have a wonderful day, CynthiaM.

I have been doing a bit of reading on how HP is used in water wells. It would appear that it is used in much the same way as I had mention that air injection and filtration is used. Almost identically! It aids in making the iron particles large enough to be filtered out by other means. But, it still has to be removed by some other form. Usually by heavy sand filtration system. From what I have been reading, HP does not remove iron on its own. This Hydrogen Peroxide iron removal technique however, doesn't seem to have anything to do with what Sue is doing with HP. For animal heath by means of bacteria inhibition, I need to do some more reading.

Ya, I know DWD, I need to know more too. Seems to me that the extra oxygen that H202 supplies creates an environment wherein pathogens cease to live. There is an inability to live in over-oxygenated environments... Not sure on that, but something that I read, that stuck out. I really need to honestly do more studying before I spout off too much. We learn, these are good things, have a great night, days to follow, CynthiaM.

35% is quite the strong concentration. It must be diluted to be effective. Kind of like the way Chlorine will purify water but in small amounts. Pure Chlorine... very dangerous. Hydrocholric acid is a powerful acid but your stomach uses it very effectively in digestion.

I feel strongly that a little germ killer in my well water is a good thing for the chickens' health. If the story about its oxygenating properties is even partly true, I am delighted. I do not buy in to it being a cure all any more that I believe anything is a cure all. You are talking to a sceptic here but I am doing a little test. The coops had a few sneezy chickens during that cold snap a couple weeks back. After a little treatment they are all breathing normally again. Let's see if the H2O2 has any affect on health and if my sneezes return.

Sue

Sorry for the delay Sue. Couldn't get back on till now. Mine is 35% and yes it burns on the skin but a quick rinse of water takes care of it. It's hard not to get it on your fingers when using it but I've got used to it.

Also, I stored mine in small glass jars so I have one at every coop and the jars with metal lids rusted but that is with straight HP in it. So far, diluted in metal waterers, seems to be fine. Those darn metal waterers rust within a couple of years anyways......so frustrating for what you pay for them.

I think that I will try using the H2O2 but I need to make sure that I don't mix it too strong. A recent retired nurse in Calgary also a friend of mine told me that the hospitals in Calgary stopped using HP on wounds because they realized that not only does it kill germs but it destroys live flesh and tissue. They went back to using rubbing alcohol. I will let you know if I can find it cheaper than the approx $100.00 per gallon.

Make sure you find food grade, Dan. I know there is a distributor in Edmonton so you might find one in Calgary too.

Sue

You could try a dairy supplier. I think ours is around that much for a 55l drum!

Well, I have used up my litre bottle and noticed improved health and vigour in my birds. The water stays cleaner too. Far fewer chicken sneezes than in the past!

Two thumbs up for Hydrogen Perokside!

Sue, Where did you buy your 35% food grade peroxide?

Dan Smith wrote:Sue, Where did you buy your 35% food grade peroxide?

Here Dan,

AGRI-GROWTH INTERNATIONAL INC.

18024 107 AVE NW
T5S 2J5 EDMONTON , AB

Phone : 780-484-0102 780-484-0102
Fax : 780-484-1632

Only it was 17% so I have to use twice as much. Aparently you can't buy 35% according to the salesman. (I bought 35% just 1/2 a year ago. A 5 gallon pail was about $130

We can't purchase 35% anymore in Saskatchewan but you can purchase 29%, mix 10 to one and then you have 3%, here is a link

http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/hydrogen_peroxide_where_to_buy.html

We still get the 35% stuff but we have to sign for it every time. Apparently it is used for drugs or bombs. Not sure which one. I know our suppliers had his truck broken into and the first thing the cops asked them if there is any peroxide missing.

It's so great to see all this interest in this product. I have a question now for anyone who can answer. I'm getting ready to switch over to plastic waterers (yahoo, spring is around the corner) and that is when I switch to Apple Cider vinegar. Does anyone know if you can combine the two without neutralizing the benefits of either one?

I would be tempted to put out a two waters each with a different product in them and not take the chance.

I hear you Sue and would love to not deal with more than one waterer per flock. Perhaps alternating then every other day with the two products.