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Mouse problem....

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Blue Hill Farm
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1Mouse problem.... Empty Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:25 pm

Brook


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Well, I think we have a few too many mice in our yard because of the chicken feed... and my cat is useless. I have seen him catch several, play with them, and let them go!

So, I want to do some damage to the population before winter....what is the best way?

Is it safe to use poison that is in child and pet safe containers? You can buy them at walmart. I am just concerned if a mouse dies in the coop or something....can the hens be harmed by picking at the dead mouse?

They killed one once, but did not eat it...so not sure if they would do anything...

Thoughts?

2Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:00 pm

Fowler

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A relative of ours once had a cat that died from, the vet said, most likely eating a poisoned mouse.

There are repeater mousetraps.

3Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:05 pm

Brook


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My cat is an indoor cat, and only allowed out on a leash when we are in the yard.... it is the chickens I worry about....

The spring loaded traps are fine for the garage I guess, but I can't put them where all the mice are, or birds and squirrels might get caught in them.

4Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:35 pm

coopslave

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There are some pet friendly poisons but the majority of poisons will harm secondary eaters.
I think there was a post earlier about a mouse trap with a bucket, string and a can that works really well. Maybe do a search for it.

5Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:36 pm

coopslave

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Here it is [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

6Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:39 pm

Hidden River

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If you use a multi dosing mouse poison it would be fine. Anything that is single feed is in high enough levels in the mouse it can harm other animals (ex strychnine).
Put them in safe containers that the birds and child cannot get into, and then when the mouse eats the poison it generally goes back to it's nest and dies there.
Another option is a 5 gallon bucket, with a hole in the top, then put it against the wall or something, the mice get in and eat the poison and die in the bucket as they cannot get back out. Even water in the bottom of the bucket works to drown them but I find the poison works better to get them in there because of the smell.

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7Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:59 pm

pops coops

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I put buckets in the ground the top one inch above, hole in the middle of the lid and water in bucket, I put bacon and peanut butter in a cheeze cloth and suspended it in bucket, caught hundreds.

http://www.popscoops.com

8Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:15 pm

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pops coops wrote:I put buckets in the ground the top one inch above, hole in the middle of the lid and water in bucket, I put bacon and peanut butter in a cheeze cloth and suspended it in bucket, caught hundreds.
I like that ! Being fall the little buggers are looking for winter accomidations and the coop seems like the place to be , I will be trying this !

9Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:16 pm

SerJay

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I use the pop can and bucket of water idea in the thread that Coopslave posted and it works great the problem we found is that the silly chickens are also tempted by the peanut butter and so we only set the trap at night or the chickens just clean it all up. We also picked up a live trap from princess auto ($17) and then just drown them. I'm leary about having poisons on the property with kids and animals. My grandfather uses a garbage can with an inch or so of bird seed on the bottom and a 2x4 or some scrap wood leaned up on the side of the garbage can to catch rats. They walk up the wood tempted by the seed and jump down but can't jump back out. I'm finding the secure area I've got for the birds also keeps the predators from getting all those icky little poopin, feed eating mice and they're driving me crazy Twisted Evil

10Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:46 pm

Fowler

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This is the one I have and it works great. A (wind up) spring loaded trapdoor in the tunnel flings them into a holding cell. You can drop the whole thing in a bucket of water.

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11Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:50 pm

pops coops

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Mine like this always seem to catch mice in the turner and they stop working so I switched to the bucket as in my post in a friends greenhouse we caught about 400 in one night

http://www.popscoops.com

12Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:50 pm

Fowler

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Also, a solution for rats that someone posted on another board. I've seen adaptations for mice online.

you pulverize some tasty and very DRY cookies , biscuits, crackers, etc. and mix the dusty crumbs with cement powder. not exactly half and half. a little more like one third cement to two thirds cookie dust.

you put water near it. the rats eat, then drink, and the cement petrifies their gut... you see it's a bi harsh.

this is the IMPORTANT part. in order to make sure that the cats and birds don't get at it you need to place the mixture and the water in a box or crate or mesh cage that the birds cannot stick their necks into in order to reach it.

in my case i placed the goods under an upturned plywood box with one end propped up just enough on a piece of wood that the rats can sneak through but the birds can't. a one inch gap will do. maybe one and a half.

13Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:21 pm

Hillbilly

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Rat Terrier!

14Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:27 pm

Fowler

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pops coops wrote:Mine like this always seem to catch mice in the turner and they stop working so I switched to the bucket as in my post in a friends greenhouse we caught about 400 in one night

I've never had that happen with mine.

The bucket sounds good but I have a concrete floor and couldn't bury it.

15Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:32 pm

Fowler

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Hillbilly wrote:Rat Terrier!

16Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:28 pm

pops coops

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Fowler wrote:
pops coops wrote:Mine like this always seem to catch mice in the turner and they stop working so I switched to the bucket as in my post in a friends greenhouse we caught about 400 in one night

I've never had that happen with mine.

The bucket sounds good but I have a concrete floor and couldn't bury it.

Smaller bucket with ramps

http://www.popscoops.com

17Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:29 pm

Azure Farm

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The garbage can and the water in a bucket work great I've sometimes found 4-6 mice in a garbage bucket in the morning ...... Would love to try out a rat terrier(been looking for one not easy up north)

http://azurepoultry.webs.com/

18Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:57 pm

Hidden River

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We have a Jack Russell Terrier and he is a killer on mice and gophers. It is teaching them to kill and leave that is the biggest issue and not to keep after the same one. But they catch on quick. Our boy is quick too.
Yet he doesnt harm our kittens or baby ducks/chicks, just learns which is to kill and which is to be friends with. We are lucky not to have rats here, not sure what he would think of those??

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19Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:04 pm

pops coops

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I do not and have never had rats

http://www.popscoops.com

20Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:57 pm

shadowridge


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My daughter has a Jack Russell that actively hunts and kills mice and gophers, including the odd "house guest." They are very good little dogs, but need a job to do. Does really well at flyball too, lol. I unfortunately do, much to my great disgust, have rats show up here every once in awhile, they get into the cow manure in the cow shed, and numbers build up over the winter until the sheds are cleaned, but I have a couple of murderous cats who are capable of killing rats almost as big as they are. The one will keep going back and hunting them until she cleans them out, and leaves the evidence where I'll find it, she is very proud of herself. It pays to have a small tribe of female spayed cats around, they are valuable to a farm.

http://shadowsridgefarm.weebly.com/

21Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:08 pm

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Rat Terriers don't have that hyper activity of the jack russell. They are more than happy lazing around until they get an idea there's a critter around. Then they don't stop until its dead. Ours puts all four cats to shame when it comes to rodent patrol.

22Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:16 am

Schipperkesue

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I have 4 cats, a mouse eating LGD, a live trap, and tons of mice. I think I shall try that pail o doom with enough water to drown them at the bottom.

Sue

23Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:46 am

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24Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:21 am

Blue Hill Farm

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The Pail really does work. I’ve caught tons of mice this way, though I did modify the original design slightly by using a pop can instead of a coffee can. And a nice, wide ramp with good distance from the can so there is no choice but to make a leap of faith to the PB. I had a few crafty mice that were hanging on to the ramp with their feet and dangling over to lick the peanut butter off the bigger can, but the smaller can fixed that.


Seems like every time I leave a 5 gallon pail with a little grain in the bottom I get a fat mouse that can't get back out.

I’ve found mice trapped in empty pails too. These I always release into the run after calling the chickens over for a “treat, treat” Twisted Evil

25Mouse problem.... Empty Re: Mouse problem.... Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:56 am

Brook


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OK - pail of doom to be constructed today!

I am going to use the pop can idea, because I don't have a coffee can...and it sounds like it will work better.

On careful consideration, I am going to use a small amount of antifreeze in the bottom. I would hate to think of a poor mouse swimming for hours before it tires enough to drown. The mouse should consume the antifreeze and die fairly quickly. I just wont use enough to have to *pour* a bunch into the garbage.

Thoughts?

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