Oh for sure, comparing a production Rhode Island Red to a well bred and turned out Rhode Island Red is a big deal, there is absolutely no comparison. Bigrock, if you are entertaining the thought of getting Rhode Island Red, for sure, do your homework and please, get the best you can. A friend of mine once said, it costs the same to feed a well bred bird as it does one that is not as well bred. Those "old" style Rhode Island Reds are dark mahogany brown. They are beautiful. I once had two, back on the coast, I got from a friend of mine that was into mostly bantam breeds, but he had a few of the large fowl RIR. He sold me two of them, and let me tell you they were beautiful, big, robust and just lovely. They went by the wayside one day when something entered one of the end coops, along with a few geese, muscovy ducks. I was heartbroken. But boy oh boy....they are lookers and are solid mahogany with no light variation, along with the black. Did you look at those pictures of the show that Rosewood put a link to? Look.....good luck, I hope you can find what you are looking for. Maybe some hatching eggs from someone. I know I have seen some of our forum friends talk about their "old" lines of RIR. You just need patience, and do a search. Not sure about the place on Otter Road, maybe they too do have a nice line, who knows, maybe check that out too, but do your homework. It is worth it...I am glad you are asking these questions, you are an intelligent woman. have a wonderful day, CynthiaM.