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Reality and animals.

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1Reality and animals. Empty Reality and animals. Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:24 am

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WARNING: Late night morbid post. DO NOT read this unless you wish to be depressed. This is my Night Brain working. I hate that guy!

Reading about a man who ended up in a psychiatrists office several days after his brother in law committed suicide. The problem was not that this man was crippled with grief over his BIL's death, but that he had come face to face with his own mortality. That he had discovered, for the first time seemingly, that people die. That life is fragile. That one minute we're here and the next we're not.

This got me thinking.

As keepers of animals I think we see more death than the average citified citizen. We see it and in many cases we cause it. Most often deliberately through slaughter, sometimes through neglectful acts of stupidity. And death because the animals we keep have a shorter lifespan than we do and even those kept as pets are likely to die before we do.

Despite having put down several old and dear dogs over the years, the death of my almost two year old filly this spring shook me to the core. I have sat and stroked the neck of old dogs as the vet injected the killing shot. I was with two horses as they were destroyed by injection, one went quickly, one was ugly and horrible. But laying across the chest of my downed filly, feeling her gasp and feeling her heart beat, beat, flutter, stop..that hit me in the face so hard! THINGS DIE, and one day, so will I. One day so will everyone I love. Some have already.

It's something I try not to think about because to be honest, it flattens me with grief. I have not made my peace with my own death. BUT...and this gets to the heart of the matter, as an animal raiser I think I am way more in touch with the realities of life and death than many non-animal people are.

I think even if you are an apartment dwelling dog owner you are still not in touch with the reality of death like animal raisers are. You rush Froo Froo off to the vet if he rejects his kibble. And when it's Froo Froo's time to go you might drop him off in his doggy crate and not even stay with him! I think killing animals for food, or dealing with the bodies of large animals that have died, a task that is never delicate or pretty, which usually involves heavy equipment, just dumps a big load of reality in your lap.

It was a galvanizing moment when my horse died. Yes, I know we all die. We all know it. Yet we don't know it. If you know what I mean. I hope that my exposure to the harsh realities of the living and leaving of animals has helped develop a philosophy and peace with the inevitable. So far, not so much. But I still think I', better off than the person for whom death will come as a big shock, since they have never seen it up close and personal.

Are we keepers of the flock better off in this sense, or are we as in denial as the people in apartments who think milk comes from cartons and meat from Styrofoam trays?

2Reality and animals. Empty Re: Reality and animals. Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:57 am

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3Reality and animals. Empty Re: Reality and animals. Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:39 am

toybarons

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I think death, dying and one's mortality comes more from ones understanding of their own life and spirit. Experieincing death affects each of us differently. However, it doesn't mean that it brings one in touch with their mortaility. I lived a good part of my life in the city, in an apartment. I kept animals, pets. Birds. I saw them die. Even had to put down some myself. Some upset me more than others. But none ever made me feel my mortaility.

I watched my mom die. Saw her age. Struggle with her unhappiness at the loss of her youth and the struggle of her wieght. I saw her give up wanting to live and reach out for death. She died in our home, in he favourite chair. What followed while EMS worked on her in my home is something I watched detached. I knew she was gone. Nothing they would do would bring her back. Even that didn't give me cause afterwards to ponder my mortaility.

I took the life of my favourite hen. SHe was 11 years old. During her life, she had issues becoming egg bound. Twice she was literally at death's door as she could not pass that egg. Each time I found her a the bottom of her coop, weakened from stress. Then there was the time I found her frozen in place in her nest box. After I read that when a bird freezes in place best to put them down, I nursed her back and months later you would never had know. I wept as I felt her life slip, by my hand I took her life. She developed Fowl Pox and after a battle of trying to get her well, the day came my hen told me she could not go on. With kindeness, I did what I knew had to be done. Still that did not make me feel my mortaility.

What made me search my mortaility was realizing one day that I had a good life. I liked me. I liked how I was living my life and who was living it with me. I realized what it really meant something to me to live. Then it occured to me that one day, I would cease to be. Dead I would be. For me, it was the first time I actually felt my mortaility and it scared me. For me it wasn't death that brought about its realization but life.

4Reality and animals. Empty Re: Reality and animals. Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:07 am

bckev

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I think we are always in some sense of denial, but it is a harder place to be as we get older and experience more death. The advantage of being part of the life and death process on a regular basis is, hopefully, we are reminded to focus on living as opposed to not dying. I see so many people that don't live their lives, instead they spend all of their time focussing on ways to not die. They watch every episode of dr. oz. They buy every new miracle cure. Life is about balance and learning to live in the moment, beyond that have chocolate once in while, make love often and raise poultry. (Hunting, fishing, watching the canucks and lions are good things too).

5Reality and animals. Empty Re: Reality and animals. Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:54 am

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I've always said farm life can harden us to something's, but at the same time we appreciate life all the more. I have made my children deal with the death if animals right from when they were tiny! I don't sugar coat the loss of their pets!! I've had people call me mean hearted because I didn't tell my children that their pet that got run over on the road "ran away". Heck no why give them the hopes that it may come home. They learn to deal! This way later (hopefully it will be much later) when they have to deal with the death of a family member or friend they know how to deal as they have learned it young. I have seen too many children shielded from death and then when they run into it when older they have no clue how to deal, I have seen a couple of these kids when they lost their parents turn to drugs or death themselves.

I find that we harden our hearts in a way to the death of animals especially those raised to be butchered, but we still care for them. We know not to get too attached to those animals, because they are for meat. I am NOT saying that they are not loved or respected while they are being raised!! I know for myself I try to tech my children that even they animals are for meat, they still have feelings and need the same type of care you would give to your pets. My meat chickens and turkeys don't get the cuddles, or attention that my pets do, but I make sure they are well fed, happy with a dry place to sleep, shelter from the weather, and they get talked to each day

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6Reality and animals. Empty Re: Reality and animals. Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:10 pm

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Yep, my kid (the one who isn't a baby) is also familiar with birth, death, and where animal babies come from. I don't sugar coat things.

I find city folks, in general, to be out of touch with reality. "You live HOW FAR from Walmart?" "You can't get pizza delivered?"

My favourite, from a city-fied ENGINEER who is a friend of some family members, asked me if we had indoor plumbing. This was AFTER her children had been in my house using the facilities. And then we had to explain to her how a pressure tank works. AN ENGINEER.

I know many city people who will/have drop/ped thousands of dollars in vet bills to keep a 13 year old dog alive for another six months. Us country folks tend to be more practical. That's not to say we don't value life just as much as a city person with a fat wallet; I think it's because we respect an animal's life enough that we won't extend an animal's life beyond reason for OUR comfort.

Years ago, I put down my old horse. I think he was 28 years old at the time. I had been feeding him joint supplements and extra calories and blanketing him through the winter for a couple of years, but when winter approached again and his joints began getting stiffer, I made the decision to end his life - because I loved that cranky, opinionated SOB, and I knew he wasn't getting the same enjoyment out of living that he used to. So, before the ground froze, before the old boy started to lose weight and hobble around, we dug a big hole and called a vet. It wasn't a pretty death, I cried like a baby for hours, but it was what was best for HIM.

That vet was on his way to retirement, and even though it was the first time we'd ever met, he seemed to respect that I was doing what was best for the horse. I never did get a bill for it, even though I called the office inquiring about it.

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7Reality and animals. Empty Re: Reality and animals. Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:32 pm

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8Reality and animals. Empty Re: Reality and animals. Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:37 pm

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toybarons wrote:
What made me search my mortaility was realizing one day that I had a good life. I liked me. I liked how I was living my life and who was living it with me. I realized what it really meant something to me to live. Then it occured to me that one day, I would cease to be. Dead I would be. For me, it was the first time I actually felt my mortaility and it scared me. For me it wasn't death that brought about its realization but life.

Yes!!  Same for me, I have witnessed death and yet didn't think about my own mortality then.  It wasn't until I felt I had something to lose, and everything to live for, that my own death and mortality scared me... and crept into my thoughts.  

Well said toybarons.  Cool

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