real long post -why can't we import with just a vet cert and is 30 days quarantine too long

USDA - APHIS - Import

Poultry Hatching Eggs

Procedures for Importing Poultry Hatching Eggs into the United States

ADVISORY: Until further notice, live avian commodities (including eggs for hatching) from the following countries or regions have been prohibited entry to the United States due to the presence of highly pathogenic avian influenza: Afghanistan, Albania, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Benin, Bhutan, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Cambodia, Djibouti, Egypt, Ghana, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire), Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Laos, Macau, Malaysia, Myanmar, Nepal, Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Palestinian Autonomous Territories, People's Republic of China, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, South Korea, South Sudan, Sudan, Taipei Chinese/Taiwan, Thailand, Togo, Turkey, Ukraine, and Vietnam.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture defines poultry as chickens, doves, ducks, geese, grouse, guinea fowl, partridges, pea fowl, pheasants, pigeons, quail, swans, and turkeys (including hatching eggs of these species).

General Requirements

All hatching eggs of poultry imported into the United States must be accompanied by a USDA import permit. Submit the import application, VS Form 17-129, to receive the import permit or transit permit. Imports from Canada via a land border port do not need an import permit.
A current veterinary health certificate issued by a full-time salaried veterinarian and endorsed by the competent authority responsible for animal health of the national government in the exporting country of origin.
Importers should submit the application and the processing fee for a permit by check, money order, charge card or by providing a USDA user fee account. Payment must accompany the application. If changes need to be made for a permit after it has been issued, there is an additional fee. Current fees can be found here.
Fees apply if arrival is during regular working hours (approximately 8:00 AM - 4:00 PM, Monday through Friday), and prior notification has been given. Overtime charges apply if the shipment arrives before or after these hours. In addition, USDA port veterinarians are not stationed full-time at each port of entry, prior notification is critical to the import process.
Flock of origin veterinary health certification statements

The original veterinary health certificate must be in English or have the English translation, and must accompany the hatching eggs while in transit. It must state that:

The flock(s) of origin were found upon inspection to be free from evidence of communicable diseases of poultry;
No exotic Newcastle disease has occurred on the premises of origin or on adjoining premises during the 90 days immediately preceding the date of movement of the eggs from such region; and
As far as it has been possible to determine, such flock(s) were not exposed to such disease during the preceding 90 days.
At least 5 percent (%) or a minimum of 150 birds from the flock of origin were negative for egg drop syndrome (EDS 76).
The flock of origin is negative for Salmonella enteritidis (SE) by environmental culture, and there is no evidence or knowledge of SE present in the flock.
The flock(s) of origin for the hatching eggs were not vaccinated against any H5 or H7 subtype of avian influenza. The shipment will not transit through any regions where APHIS considers highly pathogenic avian influenza to exist, as listed here.
The flocks of origin have been vaccinated against Newcastle disease (avian paramyxovirus) at least 21 days prior to export, using vaccines that do not contain any velogenic strains of Newcastle disease virus.

Note: If the flock(s) of origin have not been vaccinated against Newcastle disease, the health certificate should indicate this status.

The hatching eggs were cleaned and sanitized as soon as possible after collection using an approved-for use-sanitizing agent, in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions. Hatching eggs have been packed in clean/unused packing material.
The flock(s) of origin is negative for Avian Metapneumovirus (also known as Turkey Rhinotracheitis (TRT). At least 30 birds per house tested serologically negative.
Flock(s) of origin for the hatching eggs were not vaccinated against any H5 or H7 subtype of avian influenza.
The shipment will not transit through any regions where APHIS considers highly pathogenic avian influenza to exist, as listed here on this web page.
The flock(s) of origin have been vaccinated against Newcastle disease (avian paramyxovirus) at least 21 days prior to export, using vaccines that do not contain any velogenic strains of Newcastle disease virus. OR:
The flock(s) of origin have not been vaccinated against Newcastle disease.
The flock(s) of origin of hatching eggs from chicken-like poultry imported from Canada must be under a surveillance program for salmonella recognized by the Canadian Competent authority.

Hatching eggs are required to be quarantined for a minimum of 30 days upon entry into the United States unless they export from a country recognized by APHIS to be Newcastle disease free.
Requirements for importing poultry hatching eggs differ for eggs being imported from countries designated free of Newcastle disease than those not designated as free of Newcastle disease.

Poultry hatching eggs imported from countries designated as free of END

The list of countries which APHIS considers as free of Newcastle disease can be found here.
Hatching eggs imported from these countries are not required to be quarantined. However, the hatching eggs must be accompanied by a veterinary health certificate issued by a national government veterinarian of the exporting country as well as by a USDA import permit Hatching eggs originating in the EU-25 Poultry Trade Region (PTR) must have either of the following bulleted statements on all hatching eggs health certificate:

The consignment did not originate from or travel through, any zone within the EU-25 PTR that were restricted for outbreaks of Newcastle disease or HPAI in commercial poultry for the following period of time, whichever is later: 1). Until the restrictions were lifted by the national competent authority; or 2). 90 days after depopulation of all affected premises, followed by cleaning and disinfection of the last affected premises, in that zone. [note: only 1) applies if the restrictions had been placed for Newcastle disease or HPAI in racing pigeons, backyard flocks or wild birds.]

The consignment did not originate from, but did travel under official seal through, zones that were restricted for outbreaks of Newcastle disease or HPAI in commercial poultry for the following period of time, whichever is later: 1). until the restrictions were lifted by the national competent authority; or 2). 90 days after depopulation of all affected premises, followed by cleaning and disinfection of the last affected premises, in that zone. [Note: only 1) applies if the restrictions had been placed for Newcastle disease or HPAI in racing pigeons, backyard flocks or wild birds.][Note: under this option, the seal numbers must be noted in the health certificate signed by the certifying veterinarian, with an official veterinarian verifying the seals for such shipments were intact at the time of embarkation.]
Poultry hatching eggs imported from countries not designated as free of Newcastle free

In addition to the required veterinary health certificate and USDA import permit, importation of hatching eggs from countries not designated by the USDA to be free of Newcastle disease are restricted as follows:

Eggs must be transported from the port of entry to the hatchery in a vehicle sealed by the USDA.
Eggs must be hatched and brooded under the supervision of the Area Veterinarian in Charge (AVIC) in the State of destination. The hatchery must meet certain biosecurity standards and be inspected and approved by the AVIC prior to issuance of the import permit.
The poultry from such eggs must remain in quarantine for not less than 30 days following hatch.
During quarantine, the hatching eggs and poultry from such eggs are subject to any inspections, disinfections, and diagnostic testing as may be required by the USDA to determine their freedom from communicable diseases of poultry.
Poultry hatching eggs imported from Canada must be accompanied by a veterinary health certificate issued by a Canadian government veterinarian. However, no quarantine is required for hatching eggs of Canadian origin. Those hatching eggs imported through a U.S.-Canadian land border port do not require a USDA import permit, whereas eggs entering the United States from Canada via air do require a USDA import permit.

The import permit application (VS Form 17-129) can be downloaded from the Internet at: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or by contacting us at:
USDA, APHIS, VS
National Center for Import and Export
4700 River Road, Unit 39
Riverdale, MD 20737
(301) 851-3300 Telephone
(301) 734-6402 Fax

Fish and Wildlife Service Permit Information
In the United States, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service regulates the importation of avian species (including their hatching eggs) protected by various national and international acts and treaties such as the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES), the Wild Bird Conservation Act of 1992, the Migratory Bird Act, and the Endangered Species Act. To determine if the hatching eggs you wish to import are regulated by the USFWS, you can visit their web site at: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or contact them at USFWS, Office of Management Authority, 4401 North Fairfax Drive, Room 420, Arlington, VA 22203, (800) 358-2104 (within the United States), or (703) 358-2104.

Please visit the FWS web site at: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] to obtain more information and the permit application. If you have questions you can contact the FWS at (800) 358-2104. Overseas calls should be placed to (703) 358-2104.

How to Contact Us
If you need additional materials about importing hatching eggs of poultry or other birds into the United States, please contact us at:
USDA, APHIS, VS
National Center for Import and Export
4700 River Road, Unit 39
Riverdale, MD 20737
(301) 851-3300 Telephone
(301) 734-6402 Fax

Seems like a lot of red tape doesn't it....but there may good reasons for some of those countries listed.  

Thankfully there is no quarantine period for importing eggs/chicks from the US into Canada.

Does anybody know who to contact to see what is required for importing eggs?

Rasilon wrote:Does anybody know who to contact to see what is required for importing eggs?

Talk to Liz...NewChickOnTheBlock or Rico.

THanks Sue I will email Rico.
Geri

Importing eggs from the us requires the farm sending them to have their birds be tested. There are two tests required a pollarium test and a typhoid test. The eggs need the appropriate paperwork in or on the box with them. And even then they may not make it through customs. I just had eggs not make it because customs did not see the paperwork in the box!!

smokyriver wrote:Importing eggs from the us requires the farm sending them to have their birds be tested. There are two tests required a pollarium test and a typhoid test. The eggs need the appropriate paperwork in or on the box with them. And even then they may not make it through customs. I just had eggs not make it because customs did not see the paperwork in the box!!

Interesting. Where do youget the paperwork to fillout?
Geri

THere are 15 dozen eggs I want from a breeder in the states and if I start now I just may be able to bring them back in october I know late but better than never

All the paperwork for eggs is provided by the seller. They need the two tests and then a zoo export permit filled out by a USDA vet within 30 days prior to the eggs being sent!  The eggs must also be clear of all manure or egg yolk or straw ect.

The eggs that did not make it into Canada for me were turned back due to the zoo permit on my eggs. They said it was not in the box! The shipper swears it was

Confused. You have listed requirements from the US side, not canada. It's basically the Export certificate....hatching eggs are considered exactly the same as live chicks.
Read under CONDITIONS OF IMPORT, that's what the vet has to attest to on the export certificate.


DOCUMENTATION INSTRUCTIONS

USDA Official Zoosanitary Export Certificate must be issued by a USDA veterinarian, or issued by a licensed veterinarian and endorsed by a USDA veterinarian.



CONDITIONS OF IMPORT

The birds or flocks must be certified prior to importation as follows:

1)The USDA zoosanitary export certificate or Form VS 17-6 must contain the following statements:
1) the flocks were inspected by a veterinarian within thirty (30) days preceding the date of importation;
2) to the best of the knowledge and belief of a veterinarian, the flocks of origin are free from communicable disease and have not been exposed to avian pneumoencephalitis (Newcastle Disease), fowl plague, fowl typhoid, pullorum disease and ornithosis; and,
3) a- the flock of origin which the eggs or chicks originated is found free from pullorum disease and fowl typhoid under the United States Department of Agriculture National Poultry Improvement Plan;
or,
b- 1. serological tests have been conducted on all poultry in the flock of origin from which the eggs or chicks originated within 12 months preceding importation and such tests proved negative for pullorum disease (Salmonella pullorum) and fowl typhoid (Salmonella gallinarum); and
2. the eggs or chicks originated from poultry resident in the flock of origin which existed at the time of the tests of the flock referred to in paragraph (b) or from poultry that were natural increases of that flock or additions which originated from a flock serologically negative to a test for pullorum disease (Salmonella pullorum) and fowl typhoid (Salmonella gallinarum) within 12 months prior to entry to the flock of origin.
2)The USDA zoosanitary export certificate or Form VS 17-6 must contain the following statements:

The hatching eggs or the chicks are in new, clean containers, or in used containers that have been cleaned and disinfected for the purpose of preventing the introduction of diseases;

The shells of the hatching eggs are free from egg yolk, manure, soil or other foreign matter; and

The identification of the flock of origin of the hatching eggs is legible and clearly visible on the exterior of each container of hatching eggs.


ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTIONS

*** Please note that border lookouts and targets take precedence over import requirements indicated in AIRS.
- Any import inspection services provided by CFIA staff are subject to a CFIA user fee.
- May be subject to requirements of Other Government Departments (federal, provincial or territorial).
- Contact an Import Service Centre for further information.
*** GUIDELINES TO FOLLOW WHEN SUBMITTING A FAXED PACKAGE TO NISC: ***
-Do not use company fax cover page
-Use the 'Request for Documentation Review' form (CFIA/ACIA 5272) as the first document of a fax submission
-Ensure the new version of the 'Request for Documentation Review' form (CFIA/ACIA 5272) is used
-Ensure all information on the 'Request for Documentation Review' form (CFIA/ACIA 5272) is typed
-Do not provide a bar code and/or a label transaction code on the 'Request for Documentation Review' form (CFIA/ACIA 5272)
-Ensure to key in the transaction number on the 'Request for Documentation Review' form (CFIA/ACIA 5272)
-Do not affix any labels or stickers to the 'Request for Documentation Review' form (CFIA/ACIA 5272)
-Should a single fax contain multiple requests ensure the 'Request for Documentation Review' form (CFIA/ACIA 5272) separates each request.

WOOD PACKAGING MATERIAL (for all origins except Continental United States):
Brokers/ Importers should attest to one of the following with respect to the packaging material being used to ship the product:
- "Wood packaging contained with shipment displays the ISPM No. 15 compliant stamp." OR
- " Wood packaging material is accompanied by a Phytosanitary Certificate, ie. approved treatment per ISPM No. 15. "(Please note that phytosanitary certificates are not accepted for wood packaging materials originating from China) OR
- "Wood packaging material is made out of manufactured wood which is exempted from ISPM No. 15." OR (when it applies)
- "No wood packaging contained with shipment."



INSTRUCTIONS FOR CBSA

Require: Zoosanitary Export Certificate for Poultry
Must be signed or endorsed by a USDA Veterinarian
Do the numbers of eggs on the commercial invoice match the export certificate?
Are the eggs reasonably clean - ie not covered in bird faeces? if the eggs are dirty, please refer to CFIA for veterinary inspection.
Are the containers new or have they been cleaned and disinfected?
Is the flock of origin clearly visible on each container of eggs?
Has the flock of origin been declared free of communicable disease and not exposed been to fowl typhoid, pullorum disease, fowl plague, Newcastle Disease (avian pneumoencephalitis) and ornithosis? (Should be stated on certificate)
Stamp and date certificate, return the original to the importer and retain a copy.


RELEASE:

If the document is completed as described then the product may be released by CBSA.


D-19 - Live Animals : Included in This Section:
· Birds
Note
Hatching eggs are considered live animals and are included in this grouping.

Applicable Legislation
· Health of Animals Act and Regulations
·Canadian Environmental Assessment Act

Notes
·The Health of Animals Act stipulates that an animal must reside in a country a minimum of 60 days before that country can be considered the country of origin.
·The requirements of the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES) are not provided in this Memorandum. Refer to Memorandum D19-7-1 for further information and to ensure that restrictions do not apply.

Exemption
There are no exemptions to the requirements outlined in this section (commercial or non-commercial).

Cathyjk wrote:Confused. You have listed requirements from the US side, not canada. It's basically the Export certificate....hatching eggs are considered exactly the same as live chicks.

Good point.  USDA stand for United States Department of Agriculture and they are generally concerned about what comes in, not what goes out!

I really would talk to NewChick.  She is set up and certified for quarantine of imported poultry.  She probably can both provide and decipher the red tape for you.

(She is Liz here!)

I posted the whole thing so you could read it. ALl i have heard is you can't import eggs. if you can walk them over the border into the states i ask why can't you walk them into canada. Not to worry next time I will leave out all that kind of information.

Is 30 days too long to hold eggs?

They seem to be concerned that eggs not even be transported through areas with Newcastles. BRings up the question..
can they pick up diseases from egg cartons. Most eggs are from terminal flocks so if they are diseased it doesn't matter beacuse the housing is disinfected each year. Are we not at risk of spreading disease by using eggs cartons from store bought eggs?

Geri

Bringing eggs into Canada is the same as bringing in day olds. No different. The seller or shipper has to be inspected by a USDA certified vet. and they need to fill out the same paper work as you get when you order chicks.
If the seller is not USDA inspected, then they can't ship to you.
NPIP is not good enough, and really makes no different when coming into Canada

There is no quaranteen, etc. You don't pay duty or GST