Seed trade, anyone?

Swamp Hen wrote:
Night Scented Tobacco Nicotiana Sylvestris
Jasmine Tobacco Nicotiana Alata -both are extremely fragrant, produce white flowers.

This is most interesting that the two cultivars of nictoianna are called "night scented tobacco" and "Jasimine tobacco"

And wonder why. Nicotianna is in the tobacco family for surely, but not tobacco.

I need to know, and still am wondering why. Wondering why so much that I am responding to this post you made. Can you do me a favour, and look and see if this is what the seed company decided to call it themselves. I just find it so odd that the two nicotiannas would be given the name tobacco. As said, yes, they are in the tobacco family, but as far as I know you do not smoke nicotianna....please look at the package Swamp Hen, I need to know about why the seeds are called this, it is only in the tobacco family and should not be named on a package "tobacco". Well, in my little mind world it should not, cause it is not true.

Nicotianna was one of my favour plants (along with the night scented stock (matthiola bicornis) for the evening fragrant air. And white, yes, white (as in many flowers) is extremely fragrant, even more fragrance than any colour of nicotianna, I think the lack of pigment allows for the one-of-a-kind fragrance of that plant's flowers.

I allowed nicotiannas to self seed wherever they chose on our property, of course thinning where I did not want those huge and tall plants, they tower well over 4 feet tall, the "original" nicotianna (not the short, non-smelling hybrids that were bred to be small, I don't think they have any, maybe some, fragrance, ugly plants as far as I am concerned)honeybees enjoy nicotianna.

During the past couple of years in our old home, I took it upon myself to shake the nicotianna plants into seed bags, separating the colour of plants so I had specific bags of colour. Millions of seeds.

so I too have nicotianna seeds, in shades of pink and white, should anyone want nicotianna, lots of it. Have an awesome day, CynthiaM.

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auntieevil wrote:
The other thing is how to package the seeds. I was thinking using some double sided tape and taping them to a paper would be great. The paper can have the type of seed and be planted with it.
If anyone has a better idea, I'm all ears.

I will be making small paper envelopes and labeling them for mine -- I learned a simple design for a small envelope years ago and still use it.

Do you have instructions for these?
The super small seeds, like tobacco, amaranth, etc may be lost in even a small envelope. I have a few tiny clear plastic ziploc-type bags I could use for those I suppose.
At least we still have a bit of time to work things out...

I don't have instructions. I fold coffee filters, and you make creases at angles so small seeds, if they escape, pool at the points. Everything overlaps on closure -- sorry!

Cynthia, I believe they are all "Tobacco" (Nicotiana)plants, commercial smoking "Tobacco" just got to be the most famous of the varieties. It's likely been bred for specific "taste traits," I dont think I'll try my stock in a pipe anytime soon!

"Tobacco is a name for any plant of the genus Nicotiana of the Solanaceae family (nightshade family) and for the product manufactured from the leaf and used in cigars and cigarettes, snuff, and pipe and chewing tobacco."

"The chief commercial species, N. tabacum, is believed native to tropical America, like most nicotiana plants, but has been so long cultivated that it is no longer known in the wild."
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Heritage Harvest is pretty serious about their seeds, I doubt they'd slap a name on their stock hapbahzardly, but they might have come with those names.
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I might actually be interested in some seeds, dont have any pink ones! Do they stand up to the wind okay? (And by wind, of course I mean gale-force prairie hurricane!)

*Edit: I may be able to post a simple seed envelope tutorial on Saturday

Swamp Hen wrote:
Heritage Harvest is pretty serious about their seeds, I doubt they'd slap a name on their stock hapbahzardly, but they might have come with those names.
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I might actually be interested in some seeds, dont have any pink ones! Do they stand up to the wind okay? (And by wind, of course I mean gale-force prairie hurricane!)

*Edit: I may be able to post a simple seed envelope tutorial on Saturday

Oh ya, didn't mean to slight any seed company. I know of Heritage Harvest and they are AWESOME. I just wondered, it seemed odd to call them this, but totally OK.

Ya, I tried to grow true tobacco one year, didn't work for me. I probably pulled it out thinking it was a weed, smiling, well, it is, is it not. I was growing it for my honeybees. Those were the years when I was searching out nectar and pollen plants and the size and beauty of what the tobacco flowers looked like when I saw the picture, I thought for surely it would be wonderful. But lost them somewhere. I still think I would like to grow tobacco, cause the flowers are astoundingly beautiful.

Ya, got lots and lots of pink nicotiannas for surely. Wind tolerant. Nope. Mind you, the nicotianna in the big variety are so tall and airy, I think the wind would just blow right through them, just like cleome (got see for that too, pink and I think purple too, just not sure). I would not ever claim that they would stand up to gale force winds . Picture what does though and tell that to us. Then I could maybe compare growing habits and tell you yes or no in a better form.

Have a most awesome day, CynthiaM (why am I inverting the "i" and the "a" so much in my name these days, it is driving me nuts....maybe I should forget it and let it be "Cynthai"

I'm somewhat worried I'm not getting/sending PMs, sooo

Thanks Swamp Hen!!

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Country Thyme, did you get your package?

Just PM'ed you!