Well, thank you for that Sweetened, nice when one can know something and feel like they can give a great explanation, coooool. Ya, getting the tomatoes in within the next couple of days. I just didn't pull it together enough to get starts done. Brandywine is one that I am trying again, giving it a better chance. And also Stupice was one I had looked at too. Hmmmm....seems I may have a couple of potato leaf varieties. I won't be collecting seed, my Cousin is a massive seed saver and will always have seed for me. Wish I could find Grahman goodkeeper starts, got the seed, but not starts, sigh....now that is a nice tomato, kind of heart or tear dropped shaped, hmmmm, meaning kind of pointy on the bottom, but surely is nice. A fellow up the road is selling started plants, gonna try and keep it local too, I would like to support him. Have a great day, CynthiaM.