looking for propane brooder

Anyone have or know where to find a small propane brooder...for up to 200 chicks?

Rochester hatchery used to sell a 1000 chick gas/propane brooder. Not sure if they still do I don't receive their catalogue anymore.

Yes I saw them but was hoping to find a smaller one my building is quite small and I don't want cooked chicks  

A propane brooder might be a good idea here as BC Hydro usually managed an outage while we have chicks under the brooding light.

As long as the brooder has a working thermostat it should t much matter the size of the building as long as the brooder physically fits. If you want smaller you may just have to repurpose some other kind of propane heater.

I wonder if you could get hold of one of those old kerosene incubators and adapt it?

Then, that might be even harder to find...

Oh, BCBoy? Have you found an Internet hack for this?

What is the square footage of your brooder?
Could it be a propane indoor heater? You could hook it up to a extension propane hose.
Here are some pictures.




http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mr-Heater-Indoor-Propane-Portable-Heater-12-Feet-Hose-Assembly-F273702-/350953914890





http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coleman-indoor-outdoor-propane-heater-camping-1500-BTU-hours-portable-safe-base-/161181894330





http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mr-Heater-Little-Buddy-Portable-Propane-Indoor-Outdoor-Tent-Camping-Radiant-Heat-/141156074264


Do you think one of these smaller indoor propane heater would work with one of those extension hoses hooked up to a bigger propane tank?

Heat Sources

Kerosene lamps - one lamp for 50 chicks
Electricity - one infra red lamp for 250 chicks

Temperatures

Temperature above the floor should be kept at 32° C for the first week, and then lowered by 4° C for each week up to the 4th week.
Observe the reaction of chicks to the heat:
At correct brooding temperatures, chicks are evenly spread within the brooder ringat
At low temperature they crowd around the heat source
At high temperature the chicks will move away from the heat source

Kerosene brooder

Electric heaters or heat lamps are out of the question because we live off grid. You may be right about the rochester heater that with a thermostat it may not be a problem and I will check to see if the size will fit into my building as I can use the entire thing as a brooder if I want. Thanks BC Boy I love the 3rd heater but it is pick up only...any one going to New York?

SMALL VINTAGE KEROSENE WICK OIL HEATER WITH CHIMNEY V





http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMALL-VINTAGE-KEROSENE-WICK-OIL-HEATER-WITH-CHIMNEY-V-/310833299228?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item485f1bbf1c



Vintage Aladdin Blue Flame Heater (British Made)



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Aladdin-Blue-Flame-Heater-British-Made-/121247229193?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c3ae5e509



ag47 Vintage 1982 Leslie Locke Model KH-1 Kerosene Heater Ice Fishing




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Details about Rare Aladdin Pet Model J180 Portable Kerosene Heater Excellent Condition




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Zenchicken wrote:  Thanks BC Boy I love the 3rd heater but it is pick up only...any one going to New York?

Are you talking about the tin brooder hood?







Here is one more. I guess that you use a kerosene heater under the hood.The vent holes let out the exhaust fumes?









http://clarksonhistory.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/scratching-out-a-living/


Local tin basher could fabricate one up?

Brooding Chicks Without Electricity


http://waynorthofnormal.com/?paged=2

Become the North American Distributor.... This would be perfect for North America small farmers.
Maybe the will ship to Canada or have a North America Distributor?





game birds
Game birds require heat as soon as the egg has hatched and the chick leaves the incubator. Gasolec Infrared LPG gas brooders are portable and able to supply efficient, cost effective radiant heat directly downwards keeping the day old chicks at the right temperature and the litter warm and dry. Adjustable regulators allow the conscientious gamekeeper to get the correct heat for his birds to grow, feather and harden off despite weather conditions.

Gasolec S2
1500 to3000btu’s economic to run, ideal for small broods of Chicken, Pheasant, Partridge, ect.

Gasolec S4
3000 to 6000btu’s the brooder of choice for the majority of the UK’s Game Rearers. In an 8ft X 8ft brooder house with a S4 (under normal conditions) broods of up to 500 pheasant a can be reared using only 2 47kg cylinders of Propane gas. This brooder can be fitted with a thermostatic control.

Gasolec S8
6000 to 12000btu’s This is the brooder for large batches in the new larger size brooder houses will cover up to 1000 pheasants in the right conditions and when fitted with a thermostatic control will give the right temperature to brood the birds correctly.

Gasolec Game 5
2500 to 10000btu’s The brooder for extreme conditions with its large temperature range this is the brooder that will give enough heat during cold spring weather, Game 5 comes with a heaver duty air filter for the extra dust that partridges can produce. Game 5 can be fitted with a thermostat.

Gasolec Game 8
4500 to 17500btu’s This is the most cost effective way of brooding large quantities of game birds and can also be fitted with a thermostat.


http://www.gasolec.co.uk/heaters/game-birds/

So the Gasolec S2 1500 to 3000 btu’s economic to run, ideal for small broods of Chicken, Pheasant, Partridge, ect.


http://www.gasolec.co.uk/specifications-capacities/


M2 Infrared Heater
Capacity:
Maximum Btu/hr 3,400 [size=12]
Maximum Kcal/hr 860
Maximum Watt/hr 1,000
Consumption: (Liquid Propane)
Liquid Gallons/hr 0.04
Liquid Liters/hr 0.14
Grams/hr 76[size=12]
Minimum Clearance to Combustibles:
Top 24 in.
Side 24 in.
Below 24 in.
Physical Size & Weight:
Length 14 in.
Width 8.5 in.
Height 6 in.
Weight 1.9 lb. 0.9 kg.
Installation Height & Angle:
Height 26 -32 in.
Angle 5 degrees

76 grams an hour= 1824 grams in 24 hours= 4 Lb a day x 5 day = 20 lb tank.
How many day do you usually brood your chicks, more than 30 days?
  

That looks great just what I wanted. As for how much propane it uses I am not to worried a 100 pd propane tank cost $100 to fill and would be enough. Figure out how much it costs to run a 150 watt light bulb with the average cost in alberta of $1/kw hr plus distribution and other fees...it is not cheap either. What is your power bill each month...ours is 0.   

A 20 lb tank of propane here is $35. Pretty sure I can run a heat lamp for less than $7/day.

But I have the ecoglow brooders for this year now, anyway.

This might be a dumb question, but where does the exhaust from burning propane go with all these devices? I keep picturing piles of dead chicks from carbon monoxide.

Zenchicken wrote:  What is your power bill each month...ours is 0.   

Really? So you don't pay anything for power? So how do you run all of you appliances and electronics? Do you a perpetual motion generator?
I would like one of those. I was thinking kerosene or diesel fuel to power generators or heaters like the old timers did. My grandmother had kerosene tank out side here house. It looked like this.



Did your grand parent or great grand parents have one of these?

If I was going to go off grid i would build one of these.   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6e3CprVTi8
Do you have a Gasifier , that would be cool. I want to build one later in life.
How do you get the power or energy to power your equipment? One day I too want to be off the grid.
Thanks for your time.
Kimball.

authenticfarm We would make sure it is vented properly.
BC Boy we have a 2000 watt solar system with batteries and a back up generator. All lights are led the stove and dryer run on propane. You need to know how much electricity you use and then decide what type of system you need, there is a magazine called home power it is a great resource. The heat and hot water comes from an advanced boiler system that also runs on propane. We also have a scan wood stove that is really efficient so it does most of our heating. With all of that being said it has been a hard road and a very crazy journey for us, we have had to give up a lot in order to pursue our dream.
Wood gasifiers were widely used in Germany after ww2 because of the gas shortages....We thought of building one to run a car or tractor...maybe in a couple of years...we have a house to finish first.

Zenchicken wrote:authenticfarm We would make sure it is vented properly.
BC Boy we have a 2000 watt solar system with batteries and a back up generator.  All lights are led the stove and dryer run on propane.  You need to know how much electricity you use and then decide what type of system you need,  there is a magazine called home power it is a great resource.  The heat and hot water comes from an advanced boiler system that also runs on propane.  We also have a scan wood stove that is really efficient so it does most of our heating.  With all of that being said it has been a hard road and a very crazy journey for us, we have had to give up a lot in order to pursue our dream.
Wood gasifiers were widely used in Germany after ww2 because of the gas shortages....We thought of building one to run a car or tractor...maybe in a couple of years...we have a house to finish first.

So you have a propane tank, how big is it? how long does it last, it runs the stove and dryer? Does the fridge and freezer run on propane?
Thanks for taking the time.
Regards kimball.
Thanks again   

we have a 500 us gallon pig and it will last 9 months to a year depending on temp. Our wood stove does most of our heating. Our fridge and freezer are electric.. just highly rated energy star ones. The freezer is in an unheated area so it hardly goes on in the winter and in the summer we make more electricity than we use so its no problem to have it plugged in

Sadly we are not off the grid...not at all..... in any way! Our partially finished home has only electric heat and we pay 600$ a month! Yes I said SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH. It's KILLING us financially. Our power bills have doubled in the past 18 months thanks to Fortis and their new 2 tiered billing system.

Wow..I feel for you. Have you considered having a wood stove as a heat source? Our heat hardly comes on when we are at home..buy small and run it fully instead of buying big and then trying to run a little fire in it. Ck out Jotul...we had the smallest one they make and it easily heated 950 sq feet.

We have wood heat only. It works great for us in our situation, as we live way out in the country and I can haul all our own wood within minutes of home. However, there are a couple of things to consider before setting up a wood stove if you live in town. Fire insurance is going to be a big one for starters. Your premiums will go up substantially if you use wood heat. Also, unless you can haul your own, it can be quite expensive to purchase wood as well. Depending on your personal situation, financially, it may not make sense to convert to wood heat. Personally, I love everything about wood heat and wouldn't have it any other way!