Flubenvet? anyone?

I also have just been reading about Flubenvet, and that there is no withdrawal period for eggs.
Anyone have any experience with it and where to get it?

Looks like a UK product - http://poultrykeeper.com/poultry-medication/flubenvet-used-for-worming

The active ingredient is Flubendazole.  Flubenvet is just the brand name.  Always look for the active ingredient when you are looking at a product.

Other brand names are Flubenol, Biovermin, and Flumoxal.

So, Coop(sorry for the shortening) do you have experience with these other drugs. If the active ingredient is the same then is there also no withdrawal for eggs?...which is my primary concern

I can't help with that Bigrock, sorry. No experience with Flubendazole.

Bigrock, I would, but probably won't remember to. Contact the Armstrong Vet Clinic and ask that question to them, they may be able to set you right. They seem to be quite aware of drugs for poultry, I know that when I got a product, they looked it up and gave me the correct dose of what to give the chickens. I posted a picture of that product and I think it was panacur, just can't remember. Stupid actually, cause it was not that long ago, so why this does not come to my mind. But they did the research and did the math on dosage and put it right on the label for me. Geeze, what was that a picture of, darn...guess I could do a search in my posts, but they seem very willing to go that extra mile. If I don't ask the vet, I would like you to and report back, what FLUBENVET here may also be called. I am wondering fenbendazole. But really, have no clue. Please do the research and set our minds at peace. Have a wonderful day, CynthiaM.

Armstrong vet is on it.  They say it is a product only avail from the UK they think but are contacting the company today.  Also Fenbendazole, not the same thing...and panacur has the same active ingred "Flubendazole", and they are looking into the withdrawal or any other products that may be out there without withdrawals that are effective for gapeworm..which i think a few of my cockerals have..
There is some gurgling at night from a couple of them, and they have been my guinea pigs this past 5 days..i have treated them with Tetracycline.  I don't think there has been any effect what so ever...but it was recommended by a vet; so thought i should attempt it.  They don't have runny eyes, some runny noses, snicking, and this gurgle...
will keep everyone informed

Tetracycline will do nothing if, in fact, there is gapeworm manifest in the cockerels. Fenbendazole is one of the mighties that will eradicate gapeworm. The vet was probably thinking this was a respiratory problem not associated with the gapeworm to get you to try tetracycline. Tetracycline does not affect gapeworm, gapeworm is a worm, not a bacteria or virus. Typical, gapeworm is more prevalent in the moister times, such as what we are experiencing. I had gapeworm and panacur rid the only bird that was displaying that gurgling sound. After a few days of treatment with panacur, in the drinking water (I gave all the birds the treatment, just in case), the gurgling cleared up. He was not sick. He did not have a disease. He had a case of gapeworm. The use of the drug used for gapeworm proved to me that he had gapeworm and because he was the ONLY one, also proved to me that he indeed had encountered a host that was carrying gapeworm, which is many.....grasshoppers, worms, slugs, can all be carriers of gapeworm. Gurgling, stretching neck out, mouth open to grasp air, is clear signs that there may be a gapeworm cluster in the throat. Glad the vet is checking things out. Panacur (and safeguard) has the active ingredient fenbendazole, wonder how much flubendazole is in panacur. I KNOW the active ingredient in panacur is fenbendazole, they told me. Have an awesome day, CynthiaM.

CynthiaM wrote:  Panacur (and safeguard) has the active ingredient fenbendazole, wonder how much flubendazole is in panacur.  I KNOW the active ingredient in panacur is fenbendazole, they told me.  Have an awesome day, CynthiaM.

arghhhhh!!.. yes cynthia, my mistake...was trying to find out if there was withdrawal on Panacur
Vet is looking to see what other product has the active ingredient Flubendazole

Creekside vet recommended tetracyclin for the sniffly bits that i was experiencing- I know that abx is not going to fix worms. I was wondering if the gurgling stuff was respiratory and thus have treated with Tetracyclin...Today is the last treatment day
I do believe they have gapeworm after reading more about it(here) and will treat it

Well, find out if there is withdrawal for sure. I don't bother to toss eggs when I had to medicate (remember I said I used panacur for that gapeworm rooster, easier to give the lot the drug than to separate, I just didn't have the room at that time). Did not believe for a minute that giving a worm medication, that would cover gapeworm AND all other worms (except tapeworm, that is a whole different drug) would hurt anything. I also did not think that any medication that is meant to eradicate worms would hurt human kind. I am odd and I am weird about some things. Now if it was antibiotic, I would absolutely toss eggs. I did not sell any eggs during that time for about 10 days (didn't have enough anyways) and it was only Husband and I eating the "panacur" eggs anyways for that time period. So I really did not give a hoot or a hollar. Eggs are always cooked here, so if there was panacur residue in eggs, probably would be annulled anyways, as it is cooked. I think high temperatures destroys medications, think boiling eggs, cooking eggs, the like. Geeze, didn't mean to ramble.

another thing that I had read somewhere along the line about gapeworm, is this. Don't even know if this could be a true fact. But I remember someone saying that to stick a qtip down the gullet of a chicken if suspicion of gapeworm and that the red worms would stick to qtip. Sounded good enough, but never bothered to try it. This particular type of worm attaches to the trachea and might come off on a qtip. I know you are an intelligent woman and have problem making chicks vomit when you think they are with impacted crop   , why don't you try the qtip thing and see. I would be interested in the results. Just do it, cause I wondered if there was any credence to this qtip down the throat to catch worms. Gapeworms are horrible, look at a picture of them on the net and how they live, it is absolutely GROSS!! Anyways, keep those reports coming in, I love to learn about these kinds of things, and I know you do too! Have a most wonderful day, CynthiaM.

Also, I want to hear if the gurgly sound disappeared with tetracycline use. I bet not, I think you got a good case of gapeworm, but give your thoughts and results anyways. I know for a fact when my rooster had them, after 4 days of panacur treatment, the gurgling absolutely stopped, totally gone. It was so loud you could hear him on the ground and roost a'gurglin'. A'gurglin' he would go....C.

CynthiaM wrote:a'gurglin'.  A'gurglin' he would go....C.

you are too funny...i am hearing a song here

I used Safeguard (horse wormer) which is a paste and really easy to use on individual birds - it is fenbendazole. Because I used it on turkeys who weren't laying I didn't worry about withdrawl (vet wasn't sure of what that would be). Used it for a few days. No effect on the "snicking" cough of the turkeys, so talking to a friend who is an expert turkey breeder she suggested treating them as if for a head cold - isolate, heat lamp and Stress-aid. This seems to have worked much better.

No idea about the flubendazole.

Never could see any visual sign of gapeworm, so now think it was a cold/sinus infection.

So, I stood in the Rooster house last night and there was nothing but peace and quiet....no more gurgling out of the rooster, no snicking and no sneezing. I treated them for 5 days with tetracycline. So, i find this interesting because there was no snotty noses, runny eyes etc, but they obviously were fighting some infection of some sort in order for the antibiotic to work to fix everything.
So....now...i must decide if i am going to treat the girls

Oh for cryin' out loud. It definitely was not the gapeworm then, the antibiotic would not have worked on the worm. Nice to hear that silence for sure, yahoo!! Thanks for posting, have an awesome day, CynthiaM.

bigrock wrote:Armstrong vet is on it.  They say it is a product only avail from the UK they think but are contacting the company today.  Also Fenbendazole, not the same thing...and panacur has the same active ingred "Flubendazole", and they are looking into the withdrawal or any other products that may be out there without withdrawals that are effective for gapeworm..which i think a few of my cockerals have..

bigrock wrote:

CynthiaM wrote:  Panacur (and safeguard) has the active ingredient fenbendazole, wonder how much flubendazole is in panacur.  I KNOW the active ingredient in panacur is fenbendazole, they told me.  Have an awesome day, CynthiaM.

arghhhhh!!.. yes cynthia, my mistake...was trying to find out if there was withdrawal on Panacur
Vet is looking to see what other product has the active ingredient Flubendazole

So did you ever hear back from the Vet? What was the withdrawal time?

Hey BC boy.....he really didn't know. I think i posted this in another thread somewhere..??
He said "...mumble mumble mumble...off label...should...mumble mumble...not eat eggs....mumble...um ah...couple of weeks."
Things like this drive me insane! If you don't know...just say so!