Irritated by yet more hunters.

I thought I had seen it all when I entered the car wash to find all the scattered deer parts left by some thoughtless hunter, but I think today takes the cake.

As I drove by the Alsike gas station a truck turning in looked a little strange so I did a double take in the rear view. Why, there was a dead deer on the road....no....the deer was being dragged down the highway by a rope fastening the antlers to the hitch! What the $@&#+^*^#*?

Please tell me this is not right. Please tell me that transport of hunted animals should not be done this way. Yes, I know the animal is dead, but the thought of dragging it down a major highway behind a car seemed so very, very wrong.

Some people are just sick. I agree even tho it was dead dragging it behind a vehicle is just wrong. It gives you an idea of the kind of person that was. Lou

It seems so unreal but I haven't found anything specific about how game is to be trandported. He must have violated to one below and there has to be something in Health and Safety that would prohibit dragging such a thing behind your vehicle. Just nuts!

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Prohibition against spoilage, etc., of skin and edible flesh
41(1) A person who has killed or is in possession of a game bird
or big game animal, other than a mountain lion or bear, shall not
(a) abandon any of its flesh that is fit for human consumption,
(b) destroy any such flesh, or
(c) allow any such flesh to become unfit for human
consumption.
RSA 2000
Section 42 Chapter W-10
WILDLIFE ACT
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(2) A person who has killed or is in possession of the skin of a
fur-bearing animal, bear or mountain lion shall not allow the skin
to be wasted, destroyed, spoiled or abandoned.

Hunting season ends this week, right? Please tell me I won't have to endure this kind of stuff much longer, right? I love that Canada honours our pioneer spirit and history with regulated hunting, but I sure wish all hunters I have encountered this year deserve the responsibilities of hunting.

That is too bad. That kind of thing is what gives hunters a bad reputation, and for the most part, is not warranted. We don't post our land and we have never had any issues. From time to time they will even stop by and borrow our shop and hoist to skin and bone their animal. There is no way the meat of that animal will be good for consumption after being drug behind a vehicle. What is really too bad, is if that was just a trophy to them, someone I am sure, would have been happy to receive the meat.

Stupid bunch of idiots!! Have some respect for the animal you just shot!! Come here and I will drag you behind my truck beside the road so everyone can see your lame ass dragging on the road!!

Is sorta what I would have said after cutting them off the road. Man this makes me so mad, I hate that sort of disrespectful behavior. You just took that animals life, at least treat it with some respect!

Also, Sue you can report this and I hope you did. It never hurts to take a licence plate and put in a call with fish and wildlife, they will follow up on it and it is the only way we can somewhat help minimize these incidents.

Oh, Piet, in hindsight I wish I would have. He was going in the opposite direction and to tell you the truth it was about 5 km of driving before I totally understood what I had seen.

I have lived here four hunting seasons so far and this is the first time I have even noticed the hunters. A bad year I think.

Anything you think is wrong, most likely is wrong for your provincial hunting regulations, and I encourage anyone seeing something they deem not right, to take down the license plate and report to your local conservation office. Pictures are of great help if possible.

Just another idiot giving the respectful hunters more bad publicity.

The stupidity of some humans never ceases to amaze me.

Ok I will play the devils friend. Did you stop to think that just maybe this deer was hit and left in the middle of the road, the person was taking it to a safe place? If you were driving home from work in your nice truck that you didn't want to get dirty but wanted to remove a hazzard other then just drag it to the ditch, tying a rope and dragging it to the next pull off is quite reasonable. Also if you are by yourself it is hard to lift a deer into a truck. I have done the same thing with moose or deer, comming home there is a dead animal that is a hazzard in the driving lane, so just hook a rope or chain and get it off the road. Either I bring it home for dog food, if it is close or know someone who is close who can use it, and just drag it there. All it takes is a call to our wardens to let them know you took it and pick up a permit next time you are in town. It is bad enough for someone to hit a deer, but to have more accidents from avoiding or hitting the animal is worse. It could have been a hunter kill but I really doubt it. Just a thought. I get to tired from jumping to conclusions.

Actually LF, I had thought of both the road kill scenario and the lone hunter scenario. I didn't consider the clean truck scenario as the truck in question was a dirty old piece of ****.

If it was road kill then it should be pulled to the side of the road, of course, but don't the rules state that you must have permission to remove a road kill for your own purposes before you actually drag it down the highway by your trailer hitch?

Lone hunter? Maybe. I can't believe that someone would not have the foresight to say to themselves: "if I hunt alone I will not be able to lift that heavy deer into the truck". What do lone hunters do? They must butcher the deer where it lies and put the parts in the truck. Hmm, maybe then after taking the deer home they drive to the nearest car wash to hose out their bloody truck.

You could be right. I really think many people do not think their actions through before embarking on a course of action.

Did you consider clean person , dirty truck?
Yes you are suppose to have permission first, lucky for us our wardens use common sense. If you came across a deer in the middle of the road and left if because you couldn't drag it yourself, then drove 15 miles home called the warden who is off duty, (I don't have a cell phone) waited till morning then got permission and drove back and found another vehicle had hit the deer that is just stupid. Common sense take it off the road any way you can and call when you can. Some times they will come out to check just to make sure it is not a shot deer.
Point of interest you could proably drag a deer 20 mile on a snowy frozen hiway with no damage to the meat. I have seem moose drug 10 miles on pavement and only the hair is worn off. Too much information I know.

I'd have to think the animal might have fallen out by accident. There are laws about securing your load. No matter what the load is it must be secured. Dragging down the road is hardly secured!

uno wrote:I'd have to think the animal might have fallen out by accident. There are laws about securing your load. No matter what the load is it must be secured. Dragging down the road is hardly secured!

I agree. Doesn't matter if it's a deer or a log. There is no way it's legal.

I understand that maybe he could have been alone .........but then cut the animal in half if you can't hoist it onto the bedd of the truck !Been there and done that ! now I am more prepared ,but NEVER have I heard or has anyone ever talked about dragging a deer behind your vehical along a road ? That opens up RedNeck to a whole new level ! And if he was disposeing of the animal then he would have dragged it to the shoulder for the highways people to pick up .I'm thinking that someone with a lot of dogs took opertunity of some free meat and couldn't lift the animal and decided to drag it ? Should be living close to the area I would suspect ....just follow the bloody smear on the road !...........BUT HE"S NOT A HUNTER !

As an ex-lone WOMAN hunter I have loaded a large buck myself. I always was taught where there's a will there's a way. If a woman who at the time was 5'4" tall and weighed 125 pounds could load a deer so could a grown man. If you were physically unable to load one yourself don't hunt alone or go buy a winch to load one the sell those everyday. I have no sympathies to someone who disrespects the animal they killed by dragging it around. I also cannot accept the clean person. You can buy gloves and coveralls that work just awesome. We use the gloves vets use to preg check cows so your arms do not get dirty. We also carry coveralls in a garbage bag that we put on over our clothes to keep clean once gutted and loaded the gloves and coveralls come off and into the garbage bag. Presto clean person.
As for the road kill scenario still font disrespect the animal and other people by dragging it down the road. If you cannot load it drag it to the side of the road and get someone to help you load it. Just my thoughts and opinions here not meant to ruffle feathers

You can make up any scenerio you want to justify that it's okay to drag any dead animal behind a vehicle. It doesn't make it right nor does it make it legal.

In the end it's just wrong ! It's to bad you didn't get a plate number or something ,hopefully someone else did and reported the person and they will deal with this kind of disrespect and stupidity !

OK I am not the only redneck, today proved it. I was on my way to town this morning and when I get to the Hiway intersection what do I see, a pickup dragging a moose down the hiway. They turned into a side road across from the intersection and untied the moose, because we had just discussed this last night I went over to ask what he was doing. He said the moose had been hit and was laying in the middle of the driving lane, just pulling it to the shoulder would have still been a hazzard, as it was snowing and blowing.So he just drug it a mile to the next place he could pull it safely off the Hiway. I then went down to the neigbhors a mile away and told him there was a road kill for dog meat. He called got the OK to take it and went and drug it home. Go figure.

Deja vu!

This season some one brought in a cow elk at our butcher shop I work at. They were dragging that poor thing for a while. Skin and part of the meat was gone and gravel and dirt ground right into the remaining meat and bone..... yuck, and they wanted to eat that(I had to skin it, and what skin remained on that particular side was road rashed to the carcass, made for hard skinnin). We ended up just chucking that whole side of the animal in the trash cause it just wasn't salvageable. Of course the hunters go "What was wrong with it?"

I am all for removing an obstacle off the road, but some hunters are that redneck. This year has been bad for stupid hunters. Around our property we usually have few hunters, this year there seems to be one every 15 ft and shooting in whichever direction they please. Our poor dexter bull was shot thru both shoulder cause someone thought he was a cow elk standing on OUR pasture(posted as well)! No one ever came to own up to it either, so we just started calling the COs on every truck parked at the end of the property due to them hunting too close to a structure containing livestock. Stuff like that goes around quick here in town and voila havent seen a hunter since around here.

boothcreek wrote:This season some one brought in a cow elk at our butcher shop I work at. They were dragging that poor thing for a while. Skin and part of the meat was gone and gravel and dirt ground right into the remaining meat and bone..... yuck, and they wanted to eat that(I had to skin it, and what skin remained on that particular side was road rashed to the carcass, made for hard skinnin). We ended up just chucking that whole side of the animal in the trash cause it just wasn't salvageable. Of course the hunters go "What was wrong with it?"

I am all for removing an obstacle off the road, but some hunters are that redneck. This year has been bad for stupid hunters. Around our property we usually have few hunters, this year there seems to be one every 15 ft and shooting in whichever direction they please. Our poor dexter bull was shot thru both shoulder cause someone thought he was a cow elk standing on OUR pasture(posted as well)! No one ever came to own up to it either, so we just started calling the COs on every truck parked at the end of the property due to them hunting too close to a structure containing livestock. Stuff like that goes around quick here in town and voila havent seen a hunter since around here.

.....As I have said before and will continue to state .THEY ARE NOT HUNTERS !! the might be called shooters ,but never Hunters ! Redneck ,backwoods ,ten bricks short a load ,anything but hunters .

boothcreek wrote:This season some one brought in a cow elk at our butcher shop I work at. They were dragging that poor thing for a while. Skin and part of the meat was gone and gravel and dirt ground right into the remaining meat and bone..... yuck, and they wanted to eat that(I had to skin it, and what skin remained on that particular side was road rashed to the carcass, made for hard skinnin). We ended up just chucking that whole side of the animal in the trash cause it just wasn't salvageable. Of course the hunters go "What was wrong with it?"

The same people probably throw out milk precisely on the best before date.

Frankly, if you are such a genetic throwback that you DRAG an animal to a butcher and then wonder, stupidly, what's wrong with it...I will not complete this thought or I will be banned.

Until you have shot an animal, skinned and gutted an animal, quartered the animal and tried to pack it out on your back or attach it to your hysterical pack horse, YOU ARE NOT A HUNTER! You are a jackass with a gun.

Boothcreek, I think the butcher shop you work at should have slammed the door in these idiot's faces and refused to allow such a degraded and abused carcass onto the premises! A carcass full of rocks and dirt is not just a contamination hazard, but I am sure I don't have to tell you the havoc it wreaks on equipment like knives and saws! Those morons made nothing but work and mess for your butcher shop. Helping someone process a good kill is one thing, aiding someone who was too stunned to make the first right move on their own...that's too bad they weren't sent packing. I hope your shop charged the heck out of them for the extra work they created for you!

Hell is other people. That's a quote I heard once, don't know who said it, but I thought it was pretty good.