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Mother's Day Horsey Horror

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1Mother's Day Horsey Horror Empty Mother's Day Horsey Horror Sun May 13, 2012 4:53 pm

uno

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This is a pointless story, but hope some will express an opinion anyway.

Horsey Teen goes out for ride with horsey Neighbour Lady (referred to from here on in as NL, for Neighbour Lady)

NL is riding her Peruvian. Horsey Teen is riding Lily, our 4 year old mutt quarter horse whom she rescued from a starving herd and has since broke. Lily trudges along with her lower lip hanging on the ground. We suspect she eats rogue marijuana plants growing in the ditches.

Several years ago NL had a wreck on her Peruvian and shattered all the bones in her wrist. Her hand and wrist have never completely recovered and she is fairly handicapped in that hand. Over the years, her Peruvian has had escalating bad behaviour. It's like he realizes that she does not have the physical strength anymore to hold him, corredt him or get after him. Thus, in the 7 or so years we've known him, his behaviour has shifted from attitudinal to (in my opinion) dangerous. NL hardly rides him anymore, he's too hard for her to handle. BUt today is gorgeous, so off they both go.

A while later Horsey Teen is back in the yard, Lily is limping and bleeding from the leg. WHAT HAPPENED!? And the story unfolds as she hoses down Lily's bleeding, swelling leg.

Everything is going fine. NL says she is thinking of getting another horse and what are our plans for Lily, because she wants a smallish, steady horse for trail riding. Horsey Teen says that Lily is just taking some time to mature mentally and get some trail miles on her. Horsey Teen thinks Lily's brain needs to grow up a little. So Horsey Teen suggests they swap horses, so NL can see how she likes to ride Lily. All goes well. Horsey Teen has ridden Senor Caballo in the past, taken him in Peruvian shows, so it's not like they are strangers.

THey are heading home when Peruvian decides he wants to go faster. NL normally does not argue with him, if he wants to go fast he gets to go fast. But he has Horsey Teen on his back and her view is, when I am on your back, I set the pace, so suck it up! A fight was set n motion. Teen says he was pinning his ears flat back, shaking his head, and began striking the groun with each step. Then snorting got thrown in for good measure. She gave him a boot to the ribs and this was met by a stop and very quick back peddling where he shot backwards and then double barrel kicked Lily (and his owner!) twice. This is where Lily got her ouchy knee and cut! At this point in Horsey Teen says she leapt off and, (cover your ears all horse whisperers) beat the stuffing out of horse and ran him in circles while yelling and booting him from the ground.

Lily is freaked out by this random attack and owner is telling Horsey Teen to give that lippy Peruvian some come-uppance! Teen finally mounts and says ride was good for about 10 minutes until they got even closer to home and Peruvian began doing leaps, Lippizan stallion like, huge rearing jumps forward. Teen was NOT about to give in. NOTE: owner, in an effort to appease increasingly miserable horse has moved from a big, ugly spade bit (typical Peruvian gear) to a bitless bridle. In Teen's words, a glorified halter. So Peruvian is having meltdown and there is not even a bit in his mouth to get his attention. She spun him in circles several times and he seemed to calm ever so slightly. But as the driveway came in sight, he lost his composure.

At this point Horsey Teen is NOT going to let him barrel up the driveway, as is his typical fashion. He just bolts, tears out of his owners hands and tears headlong up the driveway. Apparenlty he performed some tricky manouver twice, aimed at unseating a rider and then for the second time Horsey Teen bailed out of the saddle and went toe to toe with Mr. Stink Face.

NL has a hand and wrist that she can hardly use and advanced osteoporosis, her Drs have warned her to NOT ride horses, but she loves it so much, has ridden forever. But this horse she has has become a threat to her safety. Horsey Teen expressed grave concern. She says it's one thing to get a horse with problems and over time, work those problems away. It's another thing to start with a fairly good horse and watch him deteriorate to the point he is a danger. This horse has shamelessly taken advantage of his rider's diminished physical strength, and she knows it. She loves this horse, had him since birth, but he spends most of his time parked in the field. He is out of control.

NL suggested that Teen can come ride him any time she likes (and knock some sense into him). Horsey Teen is less eager to deal with basket cases, she's had a few over the years. We will tell NL before she decides to buy Lily, to take her for a ride whenever she wants. She is a very good rider, but very soft hearted and does not nip a problem in the bud. Rather makes an excuse to let it go or finds a way to balme herself rather than horse. I am guilty of this and I don't even ride horses!

So daughter spent Mother's Day having a bad date with a Spanish speaking individual. What does one do with a horse that has learned he can get away with murder? I think he probably CAN be fixed, but unless it his owner who fixes him, I don't think it will stick. Opinions?

2Mother's Day Horsey Horror Empty Re: Mother's Day Horsey Horror Sun May 13, 2012 6:39 pm

Schipperkesue

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Advice? Ok, succinct and to the point...

Put down the a$$hole in a horses body..

Give Lily a kiss and do not sell a hamster to NL.

Thank God your daughter is still alive.

3Mother's Day Horsey Horror Empty Re: Mother's Day Horsey Horror Sun May 13, 2012 7:47 pm

uno

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Actually Sue, for once, FOR ONCE Horsey Teen asked to borrow the ladie's helmet before mounting el caballo loco. Despite nagging and battles, Teen, who is invincible and will never land on her noodle, rides without a helmet (I know, this infuriates me too and I have run up the driveway behind her and hurled her helemt at her!) But I thought it showed the briefest sign of hope that Horsey Teen thought, hmm, better helmet up for this customer.

My concern, I guess, is that any horse, once it learns it can push you around, will escalate. Someone once told me that the very best riders are bossy (rhymes with itches) because if you don't tell your horse what to do, pretty soon it will be telling YOU what to do! This is true, small horse has me trained to scratch all her itchy places by just pointing at them with her nose. I think I trained her to do that, but really, she trained me to reach the hard to reach places.

How do you convince a sweet, kind, gentle and loving person that what they need to do is CLOBBER THAT DAMN HORSE! I believe in the kindest and gentlest methods of training possible. Right until you get a customer like this fella. Besides, he doesn't need training, he needs UNtraining. I guess, as you say SoSmartSue, a small part of me wonders what kind of horrid beast Lily might morph into if given the chance. (she's not perfect! SHe's the idiot who leapt over a 4 foot barrier, ran pell mell into an ice covered pond and, breaking through the ice, stood belly deep in freezing water for several hours. Would have gladly shot her that day!)




4Mother's Day Horsey Horror Empty Re: Mother's Day Horsey Horror Sun May 13, 2012 8:55 pm

Prairie_Crocus

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That could have ended even worse than it did! I'm not a horse expert (only been riding 6 yrs), but I know from the horses hubby rides for people in the pasture that an animal that aggressive is not worth straightening out - it's one thing to behave badly out of fear or ignorance, but that type of aggression is usually bad news! Not worth the danger to keep working with that horse! The only horses hubby has ever suggested canning are ones just like that.

5Mother's Day Horsey Horror Empty Re: Mother's Day Horsey Horror Sun May 13, 2012 9:04 pm

uno

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Prairie Crocus, I agree. But when matters of the head collide with matters of the heart... the sensible thing often does not get done.

6Mother's Day Horsey Horror Empty Re: Mother's Day Horsey Horror Sun May 13, 2012 10:26 pm

fuzzylittlefriend

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I know a guy at the coast who will straighten him out.....then sell the bugger asap!

http://pauluzzifamilypoultry.webs.com/

7Mother's Day Horsey Horror Empty Re: Mother's Day Horsey Horror Mon May 14, 2012 12:11 am

abpride


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Horse needs to go round and round androundandround.
No trail rides till control is gotten.
After round and round for a month and learns to relax, he will be ever so happy to go for a nice trail ride.
The breed is very smart,figured thngs out.
He was just trying to get the best of the Horsey teen,, pissed that he couldnt win.
Next ride might be rocky,but he would figure it out super fast and grab a few brains.
I would keep the idiot off him....she wrecked him so doesnt deserve to get on his back.

Put spade back in his mouth....it is for gait not control but horsey teen will feel better with it in his mouth and horse will understand what s asked.
Remember that when contact on the bit is given they are geared to speed up.

Lots of halts,stands and walk.
Tell her she can not or should not jab horse in ribs...the breed is supersensitive and jab tends to be a explosion.Slight shift is saddle is all that is needed haha

easy to say huh Smile
ok will shut up now.



8Mother's Day Horsey Horror Empty Re: Mother's Day Horsey Horror Mon May 14, 2012 12:54 am

smokyriver

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I agree with AB!! The horse can be "fixed" by someone, but if NL is allowed to ride him after being fixed he will be right back where he is right now with only a couple rides. He has figured out he rules her and will not take long to remember that even after being "fixed". I also agree, circles in an enclosed area would be best to regain control of his body by regaining control of his brain. If horsey teen takes on this horse, I think she could probably regain control fairly quickly as long as NL does not ride him. Hope she does not backslide Lilly's training if she starts riding her more by allowing her to figure out bad habits!

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9Mother's Day Horsey Horror Empty Re: Mother's Day Horsey Horror Mon May 14, 2012 7:22 am

CynthiaM

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Uno, you spun a good tale, as always. I have total respect for people that make a horse have total respect. Although it appears this dude is going to need lesson after lesson, and the neighbour should not have that horse, and if she gets another horse, one that is so gentle, no lessons ever need to be given. I am impressed with how Horsey Teen dealt with this dude and the picture you painted was clear as clear could be, I was right there beside her, watching her. Good on Horsey Teen, I have no qualms with showing something who is boss. Shoulda seen me as bossman with a hideously mean and nasty muscovy drake (which I eventually sold to someone that brought him into a breeding group where he was 3rd man down, smiling). That would have rocked your socks too, tried over and over to show him who was boss....didn't work. Back to Horsey Teen. She has wits about her, that is clear to see and I take me hat off to this gal, tell her so please, smiling. Wanna hear more, wanna hear more, spin those tales, girl!! And have a most wonderful day, CynthiaM.

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