Goats - Guessing at number of babies

Is there a way to make an educated guess as to how many kids a doe is carrying? She was exposed 'early December', 2012, so is due any time in the next 8 weeks really. I don't see babies moving around in there, though sometimes she's heavier to one side or the other.

Is there a way to make an educated guess?

There is really no way to tell how many with out a ultrasound as for her due date if she was bred early December her due date would be in May as goats carry for 5 months
what does her Vulva look like if it is tight and small I would say not bred if it is full and flabby I would say bred
can you take a pic of it and post it?
as for her looking heavier on one side at times that is her rumen.
Is she Bagging up at all?
How about her Ligaments at the base of her tail are they starting to soften
Hope this helps and try an get a picture if you can

Thanks appway. I'm positive she's bred. I bought another doeling with her who I don't think took, she was exposed to the same spanish buck. I say 'any time' because my books on goats say 5 months give or take 2 weeks on either side.

The 'pooch test' thing, she looks -way- different from the other doe, puffy and large, vulva seems pointed downwards. I'll see if I can get a picture of her back end. Her width has increased greatly since her arrival where the others have stayed stable, so she is gaining. She has been bagging up as of late. You never used to be able to see her teets if she was standing in front of you with her back to you, but you can now. I try to touch her bag every day (she haaaates it) to see how she's progressing as well as to get her used to being touched, as I'd like to milk her if she produces enough for her kid(s). I've been able to notice changes over a few days time when it comes to how her udder feels.

I'll also post Gretel, because I'm confused as to whether or not she's pregnant. If she is, maybe early along, but she was touted at the auction as being bred. Some of her pen mates looked ready to pop, others didn't, and there's no telling from an auction. I'm guessing she would be due june/july time period if she is bred, considering when we bought her, but that's a huge if.

Thanks for the tips. Will post again soon.

Estelle is on the left

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Vulva pictures. The other girls don't tend to walk with their tails up, and I tried everything, so only Estelle. Her bag has grown significantly over the past 2 days and you can see her teets really easily.

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It can be hard to tell,especially on first timers. We have had goats that I didn't think had been bred, gave no indications at all yet we would arrive home to twins. From your pictures and description I would say she is pregnant and due soon.

Looks like she might be bred
I would like a poochier (sp) vulva but I dont know what it looked like before

Cute Ober by the way You will like the breed
Keep us posted if she kids

We had one last spring we didn't think was pregnant, and one morning she surprised us with a doeling.

Thanks guys. Her sister (far right) was bred at the same time, but I'm not convinced she took. No bagging up, no getting wider, and a completely different looking pooch.

Funny you should say it should be a bit, well, poofier. I made the comment taking the pictures that it looked less poofy than usual.

as of 8 am this morning, Estelle is giving milk freely when I check her udder and handle her teets. closer!

Good news
Check her Ligaments at her tail base and see if they are real soft
also watch for a discharge
dont go anywhere or you will miss the birth
LOL
Keep us posted

Oh my gosh she's driving me NUTS!

She is still giving milk and the baby dropped early yesterday. As of this morning, her ligaments are harder to find, but I'll be darned if she didn't almost seem to smile every time I got up during the night to check on her.

I'm betting there'll be a kid tonight when I get home, I've heard some goats will hold out until everyone leaves.

*Pulls out hair*

Both my girls are full of milk. The young one (first timer) is looking confused. Poor sweetie, she just can't get comfy. I am guessing she has two and her mom has four again.

Sweetened, it looks like you will be squeeing again very soon!

Its surprising how the birth of anything can help you bond. Fingers XX'd you don't miss it and can get pics to post.

*Pouts*

Yesterday the baby dropped, her tendons were hard to find (but still findable), she was hollowed out with a large udder. OI, today when we arrived you could feel her tendons with ease, and this evening when I checked her they were hard to find again but the baby was no long dropped looking AND her bag doesn't seem as tight, but she's still giving milk.

*Pulls out hair*

RARRR

Yesterday she thinned right down, so much so I went and checked for a baby. By the time we got home she was as wide as usual again. This morning, Moose couldn't find her ligaments and then within about an hour they were able to be found again.

RAAAAAH I hate not knowing her actual bred date.

Yes, you will be squeeing soon.

Is there time to create a quick baby pool? Not for betting, just for fun!

!!! Done.