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k.r.l

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Just wondering what everyone thinks about having examples on display of birds with noticeable Disquailifications at Shows to be used as teaching tools?

What are your thoughts? For our up coming show we are thinking about having a 'DQ' Row, where we have good examples of some traits like feather stubs, wry tail, side sprigs... etc

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It might work I know the last show I went to there was a Jersey Giant that was DQ'd for a side sprig and the people were really upset as they said he was a nice rooster and they never new what that was
Give it a try and see how it goes

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I think it is an excellent idea KRL, there are a lot of newbies (me included) that don't completely understand some of the terms the judges right on the cards, an example area where people could see what a Stub, or Wry tail is would be great. Duck foot is another good one people need to see to completely understand.


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I think it's a great idea! I would love to see birds, or even really good photos, of the different disqualifications.

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k.r.l

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Pictures on here are always welcome.
Myself being a very visual person I always like to look at a example.

It is decided then CHB will have a 'DQ' Row at our upcoming show for educational purposes.
Also if you are planning to attend the show and think you have a good example of a disqualification please email or pm me.

I believe I will be able to round up a few disqualifications in my fattening pen.

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I am sure I can find you some great examples of ’duck feet' amongst my Houdans.

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k.r.l. Good idea. Might I suggest that with each example there be some sort of card placed on each cage explaining what the DQ is? Remember at this past lawn show you had a similiar display set up? I know I was asked a by a few people what the DQ birds were doing there as they had no idea.

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I think it's a great Idea for ppl to actually see the dq, I think it will help breeders when picking breeding stock in turn helping the breed. Very Happy 

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I agree, it is an excellent idea. I know it really helps me to see the fault in the flesh, or a well taken picture.

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KRL, You should put my Langshan roo in for side sprigs

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Great idea!

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But do the showcards not explain why the birds is dq? There are always lots of examples of dq in the showroom already. This sounds more like a good opportunity for a seminar separate from the show aimed for people starting out and do not own or know the sop.

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Piet wrote:But do the showcards not explain why the birds is dq? There are always lots of examples of dq in the showroom already. This sounds more like a good opportunity for a seminar separate from the show aimed for people starting out and do not own or know the sop.
Piet, my first Cochin I showed was DQ for vulture hocks. I asked Kyle what that meant. He tried to explain but didn't really have a good idea what it meant so I was left without answers. I am sure Kyle knows how to explain VH now Wink I certainly do!

Anyway, unless the DQ is explained and not just named, the general public and novice show people will probably not understand exactly what the DQ is.

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I think it is a great idea.

toybarons

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Schipperkesue wrote:
Piet wrote:But do the showcards not explain why the birds is dq? There are always lots of examples of dq in the showroom already. This sounds more like a good opportunity for a seminar separate from the show aimed for people starting out and do not own or know the sop.
Piet, my first Cochin I showed was DQ for vulture hocks.  I asked Kyle what that meant.  He tried to explain but didn't really have a good idea what it meant so I was left without answers.  I am sure Kyle knows how to explain VH now Wink I certainly do!

Anyway, unless the DQ is explained and not just named, the general public and novice show people will probably not understand exactly what the DQ is.
I agree. I raise houdans which are a 5-toe breed. All 5-toed breeds can have duck-feet. Explanations and even pictures in books don't really explain duck-feet as well as actually seeing it with a bird in hand and a knowledgably person there to both show & explain it.

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Schipperkesue wrote:
Piet wrote:But do the showcards not explain why the birds is dq? There are always lots of examples of dq in the showroom already. This sounds more like a good opportunity for a seminar separate from the show aimed for people starting out and do not own or know the sop.
Piet, my first Cochin I showed was DQ for vulture hocks.  I asked Kyle what that meant.  He tried to explain but didn't really have a good idea what it meant so I was left without answers.  I am sure Kyle knows how to explain VH now Wink I certainly do!

Anyway, unless the DQ is explained and not just named, the general public and novice show people will probably not understand exactly what the DQ is.
I agree from my experience with showing and breeding dogs it is very hard for some people to see a fault by name alone. It might be more effective to have a print out with a pic of the fault an a explanation. I would only have major faults or the most common ones. I'm new to poultry showing and I am assuming that each breed has its own set of faults and some being the same as others. I do think it is a great idea!!

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I don't get it. I think that knowing what a disqualification looks like is very, very important. So many things that one must be aware of with breeds. If this thread is meant for us to include pictures it should be said so. If a thread where people can put their pictures of disqualifications for breeds in is made, it should be made.

I have had things that are not good, disqualifications, in my flocks, working to get these out of the lines, don't know if I will ever be there. Probably not. I have experienced wry tale, duck feet, vulture hocks, side sprigs, and I have pictures to show these disqualifications, not sure if I have the one for side sprigs, but I am sure someone does. For sure. Want pictures put in this thread? I am thinking that a separate thread for disqualifications should be made. Pictures of disqualifications. What about 2 headed birds? Razz  is that a dq? Have a beautiful day, CynthiaM.

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That would be a new breed, Cynthia!

Kyle wants to have a DQ row at the next show with examples of DQs there for the public to see.

However, if you want to start a new thread...

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Sue, you are tempting fate Embarassed  Razz  beautiful days, CynthiaM.

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Does sound like an opening for a breeder to get lots of good stock and start the 'Standard Disqual'.

Requirements include wry tale, duck feet, vulture hocks, side sprigs and no identifiable colour pattern.

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There are a couple of dq's I have struggled to understand and just don't get clear from photos alone. If I went to a show and there was a dq display I would find it hugely helpful. Even better if there were someone to ask.

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k.r.l

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Glad to see that most people are in favor of having a DQ Row at the Show!
We plan on making some good cards that explain the disqualification of each bird, so the public and Exhibitors can learn more about some common DQ's.

Sue it would be great if you could bring a bird with a good example of duck foot.
A friend of mine is bringing Wry tail. I acquired a bird that is a great example of Feather Stubs.

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Will do!....though I think perhaps the terminology should be a BAD example of duck foot! I will bring a bad duckfoot hen and then Liz can take her home for her menagerie.

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